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From Adversity to Purpose: A Journey of Resilience and Empowerment

August 21, 2024 Dionne Malush

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In this inspiring episode, we are joined by the incredible Kristie Stocker, a powerhouse in leadership coaching and success mentoring. Kristie shares her remarkable journey of overcoming significant adversity, from a challenging divorce in her early years to becoming a celebrated success coach and speaker. She dives deep into the importance of resilience, self-awareness, and living a life driven by purpose. Kristie reveals her strategies for transforming life's toughest challenges into opportunities for growth and empowerment, and how she's helping others do the same. If you're ready to find your purpose and push through your own challenges, this episode is a must-listen. Tune in to discover how Kristie has turned obstacles into stepping stones for a fulfilling and impactful life. Don't miss her invaluable insights on defining success, overcoming imposter syndrome, and the power of mentoring.

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Speaker 1:

What challenge are you currently facing that you wish you had a roadmap for? Think about it as we get into our conversation with Christy Stocker. Welcome to another inspiring episode of Shine On Success. I'm your host, dionne Malish, and today we have a truly exceptional guest joining us. She is a mix of energetic problem-solving, generous leadership expertise and a sprinkle of marathon running. Meet Christy Stocker, an award-winning keynote speaker, success coach and leadership consultant. Christy specializes in transforming driven professionals into rock star leaders, and I can't wait for you to hear her story and insights. I am so excited today to have Christy Stocker on my show. Hi, christy, how are you doing? Hey, what's going on? How are you? I'm doing good. I was excited because I know you've had quite a busy six months, but getting married and you know all the fun that goes with that, and then you had a second reception, right, I mean so much to do. How do you have time for me?

Speaker 2:

Well, I mean, I made it a priority because I remember, you know, looking at the request, and I reached out and you're like, yeah, girl, you're in and I'm like I can't miss this. This is, this is going to be awesome.

Speaker 1:

So are you saying to me that maybe you've had some adversity in your life that you've gotten over Cause that's what this podcast is about? Oh, are you kidding me?

Speaker 2:

Like I have full keynote speeches that I do on adversity alone. Are you kidding me? That's why I wanted to talk. I'm like this is totally my jam.

Speaker 1:

I love it, and so you know that's what I wanted to do is just help people know that we all been through stuff, right, we just got to push through it. The difference is the ones that push through, and so we are the difference makers, and we are here. So let's talk about you and share a little bit about your background and what led you to where you are today.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, sweet. So gosh, how long do we have no-transcript Michigan? All my family was in Florida, back in Florida, where I lived, and for like a 21 year old, 22 year old, it was a lot, and I felt that one of the more traumatic things that had gone through my life the divorce was long. He was I'll just say he was not a very nice person, and so I learned quickly how to get over adversity and how to not let other people drag me down, and I feel that, even though it wasn't happening right then and there in college, I felt that that's what prepped me for what I do today.

Speaker 2:

And so after that I went into corporate and I went into communications and I thought, you know, this is my path, because this is what I'm good at. But what I really found out, that I was really good at mentoring people and coaching people, and I think that's where I really found it. And I said, wow, you know what, fast forwarding. I've gone through a lot of adversity, especially in relationships, job, things, all that. And I said you know what? And I've gotten through it I won't say unscathed, but I'm still talking to you here, six feet over ground, so obviously I know a thing or two of how to get through it and let the emotions go through you but not lose your mind at the same time, and then go on the other side of it and have a lot of happiness and joy and being able to let that go. I mean that's a huge thing where you've gone through lots of adversity. But then what do you do with it and how are you when it's finished?

Speaker 1:

So let me ask you are you six feet tall?

Speaker 2:

No, maybe I should have said five feet, five over.

Speaker 1:

I was like I don't remember being that tall, so let's talk. Let's continue where we're at. So was this your dream job? What you're doing today, like did you know this? You said you were already thinking about. You had no idea. How do you get to hear?

Speaker 2:

well, when I was in college I was studying graphic design, market communications, corporate communications, marketing, all those kind of fun things, and because I was really good at that when I was young right, I was really good at technology and I was really good at art and that that was my thing. But as I kind of got in the corporate world, I mean I was really good, I was very sought after with my clients, I won national awards for my design and my creativity, and then onto my photography, but I just felt like something was missing. And back when I was in high school I mentored and coached a lot of people and I took a lot of leadership roles. I mean I was vice president of the school and president of this president of that and I kind of figured out that that was what really made me fulfilled, that I really loved helping people in, especially in like a leadership role or coming from I don't know, I don you could say on the side, from corporate, outside my corporate job.

Speaker 2:

And I stumbled on a couple mentors. They were professional speakers and I was doing some speaking at the time, you know, just just smaller level stuff, smaller level audiences and they said you know what? You really have a knack for this. Did you know that you could really just make this an entire career right? Success coaching, speaking, leadership, consulting and I know this sounds odd now, but I was like I didn't know you could actually do that. There's people like that out there. I mean, I know who Tony Robbins was. He was like my guy, right, and why didn't I realize that I could do that too? But I think sometimes when we look at people who are playing at such a high level, we don't think we can do that too right.

Speaker 2:

We just kind of X ourselves out, and I think that's what happened to me, and so I was very lucky that when they say when the student is ready, the teacher will appear.

Speaker 2:

Well, I had mentors coming out of the woodwork left and right and they encouraged me and kind of took me under their wing and that's how I learned about coaching speak. You know how to speak professionally and I've always loved leadership. I've been studying it for I don't even know how long and I've had mentors and leadership and leading people myself, of course, and I said you know what? This is where my heart is leading me and that's why I my whole coaching practice rises and falls on a sense of purpose, because when you have that sense of purpose and that passion, that thing that really lights you up, you can get through any adversity. Honestly, like that's, people ask me what's my secret? How do you get through it? I'm like because I have a stronger purpose and I have a light at the end of the tunnel and I will get through this because I know where I'm going. Perfectly said, christy.

Speaker 1:

So let's talk about specific, specific steps that you've taken to overcome some of the adversities that you've had. Do you have a game plan or a morning routine or a night? What do you do to push through, like, how do you pick yourself back up?

Speaker 2:

Well, it's funny because, all right, I'll, I'll tell you something recent. Nobody knows about this, okay, nobody knows about this, except my husband. So we had got an emcee for our Saturday event and he called me maybe about a few hours before the event and said I have to cancel and it, you know, it kind of threw me for a loop because I can't emcee my own event and it's, it's a big event and there's a lot of people there and whatnot. And I understood why it was a family crisis, right, and I completely understood. But you know, when things hit the fan, right then and there you're not seeing anything else except oh my gosh. Now what am I going to do? I am so sorry for your family, but oh my gosh. But oh, your family and right. So I will be honest, my frustration and anger kind of rose through the roof really, really fast, because when you're planning for an event and you're spending all this time and you've been doing it for months and months, and this happens just hours before, you get really tweaked. Now here's my secret when I was in corporate there and I even told my husband this because he saw the stress levels rise from zero to a thousand in two seconds.

Speaker 2:

There was a scene that we had in corporate that says go below the line but don't stay there. Go below the line but don't stay there. So obviously, when you're doing your job or whatever, it is right. So for us we had clients and so sometimes you know, maybe the clients weren't, so, you know, friendly, or they gave you deadlines that were impossible, and you get frustrated or you get upset, or something happens. It's okay to go below the line, right, like have a little pity party For a little while. Exactly, go get upset, go get annoyed, go get frustrated, go get it out. Because they didn't say this.

Speaker 2:

But, as I know, you got to let the emotions flow through you, because the more that you fight the emotions, the more the emotions are going to take over you. And right in the middle of adversity is when you do not need the emotions to take over you. You need to have a clear head to figure out what you need to do next. So I went below the line. I was like, oh, what am I going to do? Okay. So I had that for about a good five to 10 minutes, okay. Now here's the thing If you really want to get over your adversity, make that time frame shorter Some people go on for weeks, right, I was taught a long time ago.

Speaker 1:

Just keep it small, do not live there, don't stay in that space. No, you have to have it. I agree with you. You have to do it. Get it off your chest. Get it off your chest.

Speaker 2:

Get it off your chest. Thank you very much. So you know, the timeframe was a little bit shorter five, 10 minutes. It wasn't like I stood on it for an hour, two hours, days, weeks, because sometimes people do and I used to do that. So I would say one of my big tips is make that timeframe where you go below the line a lot shorter, so get those emotions out. If you can do it within seconds, great, you are ahead of the game. Your self-awareness is on point. But so I got my little tirade out for five. It probably wasn't even 10 minutes, it was probably more like five minutes.

Speaker 2:

Because I'm the type where it's like, okay, this is hitting the fan, what can I control? I can control my emotions, my thoughts and my actions. So that's what I did I let the emotions go. Okay, now what are my actions going to be? I can control that. So then I started making phone calls and I said, okay, you know what? I'm just going to going to start reaching out to people who might be able to do this event for me on last minute notice, because me sitting in my emotions is not going to move me forward and I'm just going to sit in this adversity and it's probably going to get worse. So the quicker that you can get back above the line or even at the line right, let the emotions through, get back at the line and then, pretty soon, when you start controlling your own actions and understanding what you can and cannot control, that's really how you can fight any adversity that comes to you and that's exactly what I teach all my clients.

Speaker 1:

I love that. I think I'm good, I know how to push through now and I used to just live in it and dwell on it. So I'm not doing that anymore. And personal development has helped me so much in studying Napoleon Hill, thinking very rich, all the personal development Robbins and everyone you know. Studying every day has helped me tremendously push through adversity. So how do you define success at this point in your life?

Speaker 2:

Well, that would be. How does Christie define success, right? So obviously, success is different for every single person and for me and this is what I help my clients define, I'll go back to what I said a sense of purpose. So if you feel that you are living quote, unquote your best life, you're living on purpose. You're living through what you feel that you are living quote, unquote your best life. You're living on purpose. You're living through what you feel that you were put on this earth to do. That to me is success. I don't care if it's. You know, you want to dig ditches for the rest of your life because you love being outdoors and you make a lot of money, you met a lot of friends and you're like this is my best life. I don't care if you own a mansion and 10 yachts and you're a multi-billionaire and you feel that you're living your best life, that's great. So Christie's version of success is based on my core values, and that's something that I teach all of my clients is to define their core values.

Speaker 2:

And once you can define your core values, if you're living through them, no matter what adversity hits you, right. See, that's the thing with success. People think, well, adversity hits, you fail or whatever. Well, you have to fail to succeed. That's part of the deal. But just because you have a lot of adversity does not mean that you're not successful. What it means is how you handle the adversity, is how you can be successful.

Speaker 2:

So, as I said in the beginning, I have a very strong direction on where I'd like to go. Success means that I am fulfilling joy, that I am fulfilling love and that I am fulfilling happiness. Those are three of my core values, and so love, I'll be honest, was not one of my core values back in the day. It was more of achievement and it was spirituality, but it was more achievement and excellence and things like that.

Speaker 2:

And now that I figured out, through some adversity, how important having love is one of my core values and not just for my husband, for my friends, for my families, for my clients, for the person I see in the grocery store, right Like exuding love. That's one of the strong core values, and if I'm doing that, no matter what adversity hits, I still feel that I'm successful. I'm helping my clients transform their lives. I'm speaking on stages and I'm transforming the audience members. I'm going in and helping other people become the leaders that they were meant to be. And that's the external stuff. And so as long as I can look in the mirror and say, Christy, well done, I feel it internally. It has to be internal, Then I feel that I'm successful.

Speaker 1:

I love that. I love the well done part too. That's really cool. So let's talk about one of your clients. Let's give me a success story of someone that you helped.

Speaker 2:

Oh geez, who all can I talk about? Okay, so there are so many and they're doing so well. So one of the ones that I felt maybe I'll give you two, but one of the ones that I was really proud of and I talk about her a lot her name is Asil and we coached about a year and this was this was a little bit ago and she came to me we always talk about goals Like what do you want to achieve by the time we're finished? And she literally no word of lie she came to me with probably 30, 40 goals. Wow, and these weren't small goals Like these were. These were like big, career changing things. These were like health goals. Now, I'm not a health coach, so it's not like I was, like you know, doing those things, and I'm not a life coach, I'm a success coach, so it's like all right, how do I get you from this lower level to this higher level and have you feel fulfilled and successful? And I'm a pretty gosh darn positive person, as you know. But when she showed me that many goals, I was a little skeptical, but she was very bound and determined. That's why I always say I only work with people who are driven. You don't have to know all the steps or what to do, or even what you want to be when you grow up. That's okay. She didn't 100% know, but she had the drive. She was like Christy, I'm all in, let's do this, I want to make this happen. So what happened was we started coaching.

Speaker 2:

The first one was her career goal. She was in IT and she was a contractor at the time and she wanted to be hired through the big corporation this is like a $30 billion corporation, whatever it was and so we worked on that and she worked really hard on her leadership skills, because she had a lot of issues with assertiveness. She wanted to be friendly and everything, but she didn't want to seem like a witch at the same time and sometimes, depending on the people that she was around, kind of took it wrong. And so she wanted to be assertive, she wanted to show her prowess, her project management skills, and we worked really hard on that. And then, gosh, I don't even think it was six months, she got hired in by the company and then, after that, she got promoted and then she had some certification goals that she wanted to meet for her career.

Speaker 2:

She met every single certification goal and then meanwhile she wanted to work on her health to make sure she could stay balanced for her family and her two daughters. So we worked on her health, gave her some ideas of maybe you know where to steer her. So then she started losing weight. Now again, I'm not the weight loss person, but you know she started taking more care of her health and she started losing weight and I mean she probably accomplished around 30 to 35 of those goals by the time. We were done In one year. Gosh, what year was that?

Speaker 1:

No, I said that was just in one year.

Speaker 2:

Oh, in one year, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was one. I love it One year and I mean it was amazing. She just had the drive and that's why I love working with my clients. I mean a lot of clients who come to me nowadays are ones that are in corporate, that either want to move up the ladder or they want to open a business. So I mean I've got several clients that are just open to digital marketing agency. One did a virtual production company, one did a health coaching company. I mean it's amazing what these people are doing, but it's all them understanding how to fight that adversity, how to fight that doubt and have that drive.

Speaker 2:

I mean, yeah, I gave a little guidance right, made sure they didn't fall off the path. But I mean, if you have that drive and you really feel that you can do it, that belief, sometimes all it is is a little bit of mentorship or coaching or whatever and you can. There's no telling where you can go.

Speaker 1:

So one thing you just said is the belief in themselves, and let's talk a little bit about imposter syndrome, because I know that I've been in a few rooms and even in some of our mastermind groups that you kind of don't feel like you belong. You ever felt like that?

Speaker 2:

Yes, I can tell you exactly, I can, and hopefully I don't get emotional, but back in, I believe it was 2017, 2017 or 2018. It was 2018. And I was part of a power like a really power women's coaching group, like it was very exclusive and it was a mastermind, it was very high end. And so we had this retreat in Portugal Wow, yes, that is like I said. It was this five-star resort and it, you know, there was maybe 20 women in there. I mean, guys, of course we're involved, but it just tended to have a lot more women.

Speaker 2:

And it was my first time at one of those retreats. I was very new to the program and I walked in and I was the newbie and all these women cause it was a year long program, so some of these women had already been in the program a little while and I had walked in new. And I mean we had people from the UK and Germany and all over the world and they were like I don't know if a hundred thousand followers on Instagram and this one's making a million dollars, a couple million dollars in her business, and this one is, you know, got a $10 million business and all this craziness. And here I am, you know, somewhat still new had my coaching business but I wanted to scale it and I remember by the second day I went to one of the mentors. There was my main coach and one of the mentors and I pulled her aside and I said I don't feel comfortable here. And she goes did somebody say something to you you know like? And I said no, no, no, no, no, just the opposite. I mean I almost started crying in front of her. I said I don't feel comfortable, I don't feel I belong here. I don't. I was very upset. I didn't talk to people and I'm a very you know me, I'm an extra positive. I talked to everybody. I sat quiet like a little mouse and I didn't talk to. I mean, I wasn't rude, but I was very quiet and I said I don't believe I should be here, I don't feel comfortable at all. And, man, she got on me and she said you have every right to be here, do not compare your dreams to others. And it was interesting because a couple of months after that I did a YouTube video. And what was funny is, when I did that video, I fast forward three months, same group of women fast forward three months.

Speaker 2:

Now we're in like Whistler, canada, which is north of Vancouver, for another retreat, and I talked about imposter syndrome in my experience in Portugal and here's my big thing about imposter syndrome those women that I was admiring and saying I don't belong in this room they admitted. They turned to me at a lunch and said, christy, I wish I had your life. I look at you and I admire you. You're out there, you're doing video, you're doing social media, you've got all these clients. You're doing all this stuff. Like I watch you and I feel like man, what am I doing? And I'm like are you kidding me? Like I'm sitting here comparing me to you and you're comparing me and I'm like it dawned on me that it's like what are you doing? Like the people who I admire the most are sitting there comparing themselves to me and my success. And here I. So what's the point?

Speaker 2:

There is no, there is no point, because there is somebody out there that is sitting there, you know, saying why I shouldn't be in the room with, with christy or anybody else and all these things, and then you're sitting here, I shouldn't be in the room with this person. So it really kind of woke me up to say, you know what, everybody's doing their best and nobody can compare to me, because I'm the only me there is.

Speaker 1:

So how can you?

Speaker 2:

compare. If you feel you're unique and I hope you know you are how can you compare yourself to anybody else? You can't compare your dreams to someone else. Somebody else wants a yacht and you just want to pay your bills off, right, or whatever it is. So why are you comparing? And so that's what broke me. I mean.

Speaker 1:

Now I'll be honest sometimes I still look at people and be like well, wow. But then I bless them and wish them well and I keep going on my my end. It's the perfect answer. Boom yeah, I mean. There's no other reason that anyone should ever have imposter syndrome ever again. There's only one of us. Who are you comparing?

Speaker 2:

yourself to. That's it In the whole world.

Speaker 1:

There's no one else like you.

Speaker 2:

No, it's like it's like apples to oranges to pears to or you.

Speaker 1:

No, it's like. It's like apples to oranges to, pears to, or you know, and pineapples, you know. Apples, they're similar, the oranges are similar, they have. You. Look at them all in a bunch. They look the same. But people there, I could stare at people for days and never see the same thing. Like it always mesmerizes me. I'll be in a place and sometimes I don't feel like talking either, but I'll sit there and I'll watch and I'll look and I'll say they don don't have the same nose, they don't have the same eyes. Like it is incredible how different.

Speaker 2:

we all are. Yeah, even twins. Even twins are identical.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I know. So let's talk about what strategies or approaches have you found effective in turning difficult situations into opportunities for growth or success?

Speaker 2:

Okay, I like this question because this is a very big key when it comes to handling adversity. It's how quickly can you put that nasty thing that happened and put it more into opportunity. This really depends on your level of self-awareness. So, remember, when I talked about it earlier was when you go below the line, how quickly you go back above the line. That's how you can find opportunities in whatever challenges that you're going through right now.

Speaker 2:

So, because I brought it up, I'll speak to what happened at my event. Right, the MC called off and I did get a new MC. It was a friend of mine and so what was interesting is, you know he had done events before. He was. You know, I wouldn't call him a professional MC, but he had done events before and he was confident. And so I went over the run of show and all that kind of stuff. He got really comfortable and as the night went on he got more comfortable and at the end he was like Christy, thank you so much. Like this was. This was just what I needed, right?

Speaker 2:

So when you have things that happen, this is my key when you say how do you turn it around. When that happened on Saturday, I had to stop myself. Right, I went below the line. When I came back up, I said, okay, everything happens for a reason. There's a reason this emcee was not meant to do this event. There was a reason that I was meant to call my friend and ask him to emcee the event because he loved it, like he just had so much fun. He loved it. He was like thank you so much for thinking about me and maybe that just strengthened our friendship, right?

Speaker 2:

And so when things are really hitting the fan, when the adversity is really hitting, once you go back above the line, that's when you can think clearer. Because if you're below the line, you can't think clear. You're just thinking of well, you're thinking negative, right, well, this is ruined and that's ruined and this is happening, and now I have to pay extra and this and this and this, and it's like, no, you know what. There's a reason that that didn't happen and it's up to you to figure out that opportunity. So once you come back above that line and you're able to think clearer, it's up to you to say okay, now where's the problem solving, where's the decision making? Because that's exactly how. When you said, how do you find the opportunities, I start getting a clearer head and saying, okay, what's the opportunity here, what am I not seeing? How head? And saying, okay, what's the opportunity here, what am I not seeing? How can I problem solve this? And you know what, maybe I'll be even better than what it was before. Right, it was fantastic, right, exactly.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I tell my clients this and sometimes I tell my client, my myself. This is you know, a lot of my clients are business owners and maybe the client didn't go with them or they didn't get the business or something fell through or whatever. And yes, at the time it's very frustrating, very annoying, because you put so much time, passion, love into it or whatever it was that you were doing, and then it doesn't pan out. But if you can think clearly, get through the emotions and then start problem solving and decision making, saying, well, did this open me up to something else? Now, right, like this project was going to take me six months or this thing was going to cost me thousands of dollars. But now that I'm not doing it, where else can I move my energy? And energy is literally what I tell a lot of my clients be careful of where you put your energy, Because if you dwell on it and dwell on it and are upset for months or years, whatever it is, that energy is not spent moving toward the goal that you really want. So that's what I do is a higher sense of self-awareness of okay, problem solving, decision-making, looking for those opportunities to say, look, it happened for a reason. Now how do we move on? Great, so what's next for you? Oh gosh, what is next Like in my career, my business life itself? I mean, what do we got here? I know, well, I would say the thing that I'm looking forward to is probably my create experience.

Speaker 2:

So the create experience is a success and leadership retreat that I put on about every couple of years, and last year it was in Austin. Oh my gosh, we had an amazing time. It was so awesome. It's three and a half days long. People were transforming. I was watching one of the clients who came, one of the attendees who came. He was very introverted, very scared, and by the end he was doing like a two to three minute speech and he was up in front of the crowd and I mean it was just amazing what was going on, and so I can't wait for that next year. I'm still scouting locations. It's going to be probably by the end of next year, but I'm really looking forward to that because I've always wanted, I always want to do bigger, better, right, like bigger, better, all that kind of thing, and just the transformation and the leadership skills and everything that happens during that in the community, I mean I would say that's, that's my biggest project that I'm doing other than married life.

Speaker 1:

Which is, I'm sure, amazing. So how can our listeners find you?

Speaker 2:

Oh, it's very easy. So if you look at the spelling of my name, just type that in into all the socials, right? I'm pretty active on LinkedIn. I'm pretty active on Facebook. If you look me up on Insta, you know I've got some presence on Insta, but I really like LinkedIn because a lot of my clients like to hang out on LinkedIn. So if you look up Christy Stocker, you've got LinkedIn, you've got Facebook. You've got my YouTube channel, which I will be refreshing pretty soon. It's Christy TV, so that's K-R-I-S-T-I-E-T-Vcom, so you'll get to see some older episodes there. But I'll be refreshing my YouTube channel, my leadership channel, fairly soon. And then ChristyStockercom K-R-I-S-T-I-E-S-T-O-C-K-E-Rcom, and I'm refreshing that website as we speak. So there'll be some really cool value stuff for everybody who's like look, I'm sick and tired of being where I am right now. I'm, you know, at this level down here. I want to start really taking advantage of things and I really want to pump up my success. So you know, that's. That's pretty much.

Speaker 1:

I'm pretty easy to find. I love it. So do you have one final word for listeners today?

Speaker 2:

I think the final word that I would say is really look inside yourself, right, look inside yourself as far as how is life going for you? Is this really what you wanted it to be? Are you really living your life on a purpose that you define? Not your kids, not your spouse, not your teachers, not your parents, nobody, not your boss Are you really living the life that you really felt that you've been put on this earth for?

Speaker 2:

And the reason that I bring that up is that I felt like that way, way, way back in the day, when I was in corporate and I woke up and I said you know what I don't really feel like?

Speaker 2:

This is what I want to do with the rest of my life, and I don't feel that this is the way I want to feel the rest of my life, not just external, but internal, because both need to be balanced, and that's your sense of balance.

Speaker 2:

They don't have to be equally balanced, they just have to be balanced, and I really would love for you to be self-aware and be honest with yourself, and if you're not where you feel that you want to be, then I would really encourage you to do something. Keep listening to this podcast, keep reading books, hire a coach, something, take action and move forward to that, because, just like in Jeff Olson's book the Slight Edge, even if you take one step forward toward whatever it is that you want, it's better than just standing still and making progress toward that goal. Like, just really look inside yourself and really see, are you really living that purpose that you really feel that you want to? And I really hope that you take that to heart, because that's this is why I'm on this planet is because I really want people to connect with their purpose and have a sense of joy as they're going through life.

Speaker 1:

So thank you so much for being on here with me today. You're just a joy to be around and I know that if our subscribers would like subscribe or share this episode, we'd really appreciate it, because if we can just help one person every time, we have succeeded in this podcast. So thank you, christy.

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